The Autism Puzzle Piece: A symbol that’s going to stay or go?

By Debra Muzikar

As language evolves so does symbols.

The origins of the puzzle piece, the primary symbol for autism, go back to 1963. It was created by Gerald Gasson, a parent and board member for the National Autistic Society (formerly The Society for Autistic Children) in London. The board believed autistic people suffered from a ‘puzzling’ condition. They adopted the logo because it didn’t look like any other image used for charitable or commercial use. Included with the puzzle piece was an image of a weeping child. The weeping child was used as a reminder that Autistic people suffer from their condition.


When I researched, I was reminded how far we’ve come in our use of language to describe people with developmental disabilities. In the 1960’s people with developmental disabilities were referred to as mentally handicapped. People with cerebral palsy were called spastics. The label “autistic” wasn’t commonly accepted. Children with autism were thought to be psychotic and were diagnosed as having childhood schizophrenia. Autism was blamed on refrigerator mothers.

To the National Autistic Society’s credit they’ve evolved and don’t use that image anymore. This is their new image.


I decided to do an informal survey of my friends on Facebook about the puzzle piece logo. Should it stay? Should it go? What would you replace it with?


I received over 100 responses. Some people emailed me offlist. As usual the responses I received were intelligent and thought provoking.

On the side of appreciating the puzzle piece logo, parent Keri Bowers writes, “the political correctness of so many things in today’s world is disturbing to me. It’s hard to keep up, actually, as the terms flip – as in person first language (PFL). When Taylor was young, I called him an autistic child. Then that became a bad thing. Now it’s flipped back from a person with autism, to an autistic person – just where I started. A puzzle piece implies a mystery to be solved or something to be put together. Is that untrue in autism? Is that really hurtful or did we make that up to feel better? I believe my son is a mystery – still, after almost 26 years, and he is ‘missing’ certain understandings, skills and abilities as an ‘autistic person.’ He would tell you – as he told a group of volunteers at a training he helped me facilitate yesterday ‘I just don’t get certain things.’ Is it insulting to imply through imagery a particular truth about him?”

Maria Hall, parent, “My son is a puzzle wrapped in an enigma… I love the puzzle piece.”

Sally Verduzco, parent, “I love the puzzle piece… It’s part of a unit. Together all of us in our own reality and ways, place each puzzle in the right place to create a unit. Unity coming together. Many pieces as one.”

Savana Rose, parent, “I really like the puzzle. To me it does perfectly symbolize all the different ways that our individual kids fit together. It symbolizes the complicated ways in which this disorder may have happened to our kids. It symbolizes how there’s no one therapy that works for everyone and sometimes it’s a whole puzzle of therapies that actually work. How did this happen? How do we help? How are they different? How are they alike? What works? What doesn’t? It’s a complicated puzzle to me and the logo speaks all that to me.”

Marge Pamintuan, parent, “It’s a symbol – perhaps to some, it’s a ‘missing’ piece. I’d like to think our kiddos are the COMPLETING PIECE of the human puzzle.”

Just when I thought it was only parents who liked the puzzle symbol, I received this input from Erin Clemens who is on the spectrum, ” I like the puzzle piece. I like it because it’s not about the end result, but the PROCESS of putting the pieces together. I also like it because it reminds us that each person, even though all grouped in as being on the spectrum, is still unique and has their own way of fitting in.”

There were some who wouldn’t mind keeping the puzzle piece if the message behind it was reframed.

Jennifer O’Toole, “I viscerally dislike the puzzle pieces as symbols of that which must be figured out and ‘solved.’ However! Then I found these handcrafted, fused glass bracelets – where the puzzle represents the idea that we each have an essential, unique part to play in the bigger picture. And that – I like a lot.”


Amy Gravino, “For me, I would have fewer reservations about the puzzle piece logo if there were a way to re-imagine the meaning behind it. So rather than it representing a missing piece in individuals on the autism spectrum, I would love for it to represent the ‘key’ piece. The puzzle piece is that component that defines each and every autistic person; that, without that piece, we couldn’t be the fantastic people that we are. So rather than looking at the puzzle and seeing a piece that is missing, I would want to look at the piece as the piece that completes it. (Unfortunately, I think the current meaning behind the puzzle piece is so enshrined in it that it’s probably impossible to change it, but I want to believe there is a way).”

Kathleen Tehrani, “I am in favor of a puzzle piece where the individual is choosing those pieces themselves… e.g., the art work of Sarah Vaughn.”

SarahVaugh puzzle piece

“I am not in favor of a puzzle piece that holds the intention that people on the spectrum are confused or incomplete,” Kathleen says.

Karen Courtney, who is Autistic, had a symbol she designed tattoeed on her arm.


Karen feels the tattoo symbolizes her struggles and being bullied for her autism. Karen is a gifted artist and designs autism puzzle piece tattoos.

Then there were a big group of people who opposed the symbol.

Michael Leventhal “While the original intent of the puzzle piece was positive, it no longer represents the goals of advocacy. Yesterday autism was a mystery. Today, while efforts continue into autism’s etiology, the main focus is on applying what we have learned to make society and institutions more responsive to changes that lead to improved life and outcomes for autistic individuals and their families. Highlighting this shift in focus warrants a newer symbol – one of cooperation and sharing.”

Michael believes projects such as the Gee Vero Inclusion project go more to educating and reframing autism.

Jane Straus, “the puzzle piece is far more applicable in my opinion to NTs (neurotypicals), who seem to expect us to guess what they are thinking. It is inaccurate, in its assumption of boy-blue, and its assumption that we are so impossible to understand. Those of us who can communicate in a way that normals understand are so simple and direct in what we say, that if they would just pay attention we would be not a puzzle at all.”

Andy Dreisewerd, who lives in a restrictive group home, has no love for the puzzle piece logo. In fact, he performed a ritual to destroy the puzzle piece by “using a plastic prop sword and figuratively driving it through the puzzle piece, cutting it in twaine. I did this to free its influence from me and my attention to others’ opinions on things I should do with my spare time, and the type of job I should hold based on how ‘intelligent’ I am.”

Lori Shayew, “I’m not a fan of the puzzle piece. I feel it’s demeaning to autistic people. I like the infinity sign or heart better.. something Autism represents.”

Andrew I. Lerner, “We are not just a puzzle PIECE, and are not missing anything. We do fit in, and we can SPEAK for ourselves! Let us support ourselves, rather than an NT jigsaw organization that is profiting from pitying us. We are all individuals, and need not have the same letters in our name. Show support for us by proudly displaying our A.S. logo.” This is the logo he proposes.

Andrew Lerner logo

April Griffin writes “My pieces aren’t missing and I’m not a mystery.”

Judy Endow writes in Goodnight Autism Puzzle Pieces about how the puzzle piece is now permanently tied in with fear-based messages. “… the fact remains that today public awareness of autism is tied up with the tragedy and fear-mongering put forth by Autism Speaks. Our puzzle symbol no longer stands for any of the good we personally attach to it and, in fact, has become harmful to the very people we wanted to represent – autistic people.”

Alternative ideas for logos were suggested. Sarah Vaughn would like to see a rainbow in the logo. Corrine Tobias likes the butterfly symbol.

One of my favorite organizations, Hidden Wings, uses a butterfly.

Hidden Wings

Carol Ann Acorn uses many pictures in her educational presentations that represent autism.


Forward-thinking CarolAnn also created this symbol years ago.

CarolAnn Acorn "Celebrate Autism"
CarolAnn Acorn “Celebrate Autism”

On suggestions for alternate symbols, Joanne Lara, Bev Leroux, and April Dawn Griffin like this symbol.

New Autism symbol

April likes the rainbow colors for the spectrum and the infinity sign which is math-related. Many on the autism spectrum have an affinity for math-related symbology.

Janet Sebelius disagrees with this symbol. The infinity symbol is used by the Metis in Canada.

Metis flag

“I feel the autism community has the best and brightest minds on the planet bright enough and creative enough to come up with something original I would love to see it come from within and not remind anybody of anybody else.”

Lori Shayew of The Gifts of Autism and Kelly Green of the came up with this symbol.

Gifts of Autism logo

Lori writes “In light of the recent news that the rainbow is not an arc, but a circle. (Thanks for the proof NASA) It’s time to recreate the new model. Colors of the rainbow weaving in motion. We are recognized for all of our colors. For instance, I know a 13 year old girl who is non-verbal (red ray) AND comprehension/writes at high school level in English and Spanish (blue ray) She is also a wiz at math (indigo ray) Because she is non-verbal she is automatically labeled “low functioning”. But, there are hidden gifts that people are missing because they are focusing too much on the “non-verbal” aspect.

It’s time to break down the spectrum (low-mod-high) and allow our innate gifts to bloom and flourish. Don’t we all excel at some things, but not in others? No big deal. We can jump from yellow to red to indigo to green and back again. Maybe then there are no colors, only light.”

Andrea Clark, “As each person in this world is unique, how can one symbol do justice for all?”

James McCue writes, “I hate the missing puzzle piece – I am not missing anything, nor do consider anyone I work with to be less then whole.” James suggests this:

James Mccue puzzle piece

“I think this represents the beautiful chaos that is continually running through my neurology – If I could add motion to it, would be even better – and noises, and smells – but – this will do,” James writes.

Kelly Green states, “Many Allistic [editor note: allistic is a new term for neurotypical] parents like the puzzle piece while many Autistic adults dislike it. I’m trying to honor my Autistic friends. I have existing art with puzzle pieces which I still use minimally (in my Making Friends with Autism coloring books and coloring pages.) I made a promise to my friends that I wouldn’t create any new puzzle piece imagery over a year ago.”


This was a chalk-art piece Kelly Green created to represent Autistic Pride.

On the side of getting rid of any symbol representing autism Judith Burkes weighs in. “I don’t believe there can be a unifying symbol for a spectrum. If some see it now as one color or another, or a variety of colors, or as limited and separating or unifying and celebrating, how can one symbol cover such a variety of expressions of human existence? And, in the end, do we need to have a/one symbol?”

Oya Dee Gazioglu, “Could a symbol also be construed by others as another limiting label? Or another separation as opposed to the oneness we actually are?”

Marilyn Lauer, a Special Educator in Santa Barbara, asks, “Why a symbol? Does every ‘disability’ have a symbol?”

Some thoughtful organizations are investing in new logo designs. For example, The Celebrate Autism Foundation changed their logo to this.


Jenny Anderson, founder of Celebrate Autism, states “Celebrate Autism Foundation changed it’s logo from a puzzle piece to a spark. Our organization is about empowering through education & sparking a brighter future for people on the spectrum. Feels like a much better fit!”

In the end, I believe symbols are important, just as words are. The symbol we choose to represent ourselves should reflect our values.

The puzzle piece was created to represent an autism organization, not Autistic people. The Autistic Self Advocacy Network which does reflect the values of many autistic people has chosen this symbol as their logo.

ASAN logo

The fifteen-year old artist Rissa P chalked this at the Covina Autism Chalk Festival on April 18, 2015.


(Artwork courtesy of Carissa Paccerelli aka Rissa P. Visit her art on her website.)

I guess that says it all.


  • Thank you for taking time to complete this survey. I agree with your view that “I believe it’s time for parents to listen to Autistic adults about the symbols they prefer. And I agree there may be no universal symbol for all. If parents want a symbol for what it means to be an autism parent, they should create their own symbol… And please don’t include crying children.”

    In addition to the rainbow infinity symbol, I also love Carol Ann Acorn’s ribbon with rainbow stars. Come to think of it, how about an infinity symbol with a bright background colour (maybe royal blue like Carol Ann’s ribbon) and a collection of rainbow stars! Infinity, rainbow stars… that fills my heart with joy!

  • It is time to listen autistic adults? Good, here is one who has a lot to say.

    The puzzle piece is now inextricably linked to curebies, and has been for some time. In fact, post-diagnosis, that is literally all I know of it. For a decade or more (not much more even though I will be thirty-six soon), it has been a simple message. Puzzle piece = “we do not want you on the same planet as us, even though people studying you believe we would not have discovered fire without you”.

    In one conversation concerning another aspect of the whole autism rights matter, I stated quite plainly that the actions of people who promote “person first” language and puzzle pieces in context of autism have affected me in a very serious way. Nowadays, in place of people, I am seeing monsters who have chopped their own brains out and want to do the same to me, whereas before I merely saw stupid people. Things along those lines.

    So some curebie comes in and asks me, just to be clear, why it is not right to refer to being autistic as “suffering”. I had a whole big angry-hate-filled response coming to mind when another poster beat me to it, and did so in a way that made me feel someone “got it” better than I grok it. Their words were basically that it was like the suffering Holocaust survivors feel at the sight of swastikas and Holocaust-deniers. That is, suffering caused by the actions of Nazis/curebies, not suffering caused by being Jewish/being autistic.

    All conversations about the puzzle piece should start and end there. The puzzle piece brings images to my mind of brownshirts kicking in my door, strapping me to a table, and cutting into my head whilst laughing.

    I feel I must also point out a few things here. I promise I will try to be concise.

    “Allistic” bugs me. It implies that normies and curebies have things we do not, when in reality the _exact opposite_ is the case. My male parental unit is an ignorant moron who forgets things that I wish I could simply for convenience and does not even provide evidence of belief that I have any feelings. Given that I can imagine/feel feelings for fictional characters and people I have not even met, I think calling him “allistic” is like calling me “with/has/suffers from autism”. That is, it insults me and gives him way too much credit.

    And as much as I dislike hurting others’ feelings, with one exception I have absolutely no wish to be represented by the symbols shown in this article. Ribbons are symbolic of movements to cure (look up breast cancer ribbons, diabetes ribbons, cancer ribbons, and tell me I am lying). Rainbows also do not symbolise variance. They are gaudy, give me the impression of emphasis of one side of one’s emotional spectrum to the exclusion of all else (look how well that worked out for Jedi), and the gay civil rights movement already has an enormous claim. When I am marching for my rights, the last thing I need is to be explaining whom I am marching for.

    The infinity symbol also does not cut it as far as I am concerned. Just does not have sufficient “autistic” to it.

    But then, there is also a large cadre of people wanting us to think that Big Stereotype Tosser Theory and the like symbolise autistic people and _all_ autistic people. The PTSD-suffering autistic adults who were around for the 1980s and the Rain Propaganda fallout beg to differ.

    This is something I could go on about for hours. We could have a long conversation about symbols and messages. A very, very long one. For now, take all of the above as a hint of many things, including that the mainstreamist autistic “movement” needs to change its tune in a lot of ways, too.

  • I think the puzzle piece is rather accurate as we “nuero-typicals” have trouble figuring people in the spectrum and they have trouble figuring us out. The puzzle seems to fit as both groups seem to puzzle each other.


      These are just two of many articles that make clear: autistic people do not give a toss what you think, and we do not care about figuring you out at all. Autism is NOT about you. It is about us.

      Curebies are incredibly bloody obvious, in fact. See below for example. They want to have this crippled, useless, worthless image of the autistic at all costs, and will even put their fingers into their ears and scream that all science is lying if that is what it takes to preserve that notion. Little does the obvious curebie below realise that a lot of disabled people also have no patience for political correctness and choose to discuss their struggles in rather a different manner. See in which Lisa Egan explains how the society she lives in perpetuates disability for an example.

      The puzzle piece is like a swastika. It is a symbol around which people who have evil intentions toward us rally. If Autism Speaks For Normie A****** thought they could get away with it, they would hold rallies in which Tony Attwood’s (amongst others) books are burned as they wave around puzzle piece flags. It is a symbol of hate, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to read more.


        Tim writes: “Unless you’ve been living in a cave for the last couple of years, you likely have seen the puzzle piece that has become the predominant symbol of autism.
        I’ll just come out and say it bluntly: I hate it.
        If someone thought a puzzle piece was an accurate representation of me, I’d be pretty ticked off to put it mildly.”

        This is a rare case of someone who is not autistic writing about autism and getting things dead right. The original iteration of the piece is misleading and misrepresentative, and the current puzzle piece is impossible to disassociate from people whose stock and trade is to mislead and deceive. No symbol that has as little consent from the people it purports to represent can be held to represent them.

  • I dislike the use of any graphic symbol for autism or Asperger’s (which is not on the Autism Spectrum.) “Spectrum” is a way for lazy psychologists to avoid real diagnosis and description of the many conditions lumped together on the “spectrum.” It obscures the actual symptoms and difficulties that individuals experience. Why is “Autism” a better name than developmentally handicapped?” Politically correct nonsense has never helped anyone to function better. Do we want specific individual solutions or cute butterflies and rainbows?

    • The amount of faceplam this one comment needs is astounding.

      First of all, the diagnostic criteria for autism and the diagnostic criteria for what Hans Asperger called “autistic psychopathy” (he was Austrian, so the latter word meant “personality” to him) varies by at most TWO POINTS. In fact, last I looked, there was one simple and very interesting point of difference: no significant delays in the development of speech or language. That is it. So your “Asperger’s is not autism” crap is already without credibility.

      I also would like to know where you think you get off calling being able to read at a university level whilst your peers are struggling with “the cat sat on the mat” a symptom.

      I could go on and on, but…

  • First off, stop using the word “autistic”.

    Anyone who is an expert about autism should know that that word should never be used. It is extremely offensive because autism does not define someone. They HAVE autism. They aren’t autistic. You claim that we have come so far about our use of language. Obviously you haven’t.,

    • Are you serious?

      Okay, first of all, if you told me face to face “stop using the word ‘autistic'”, I cannot be held liable for the consequences. Yes, this is THAT bad.

      The position of hate groups like Autism Speaks FNA (FNA standing for For Normie …holes) depends IN ITS ENTIRETY on people thinking of what makes us us as a separate thing to us. Demanding that we call ourselves “with autism” is no different to demanding black people call themselves “with blackness” or women “with femaleness”.

      It is not unreasonable to believe that if certain people had thought of it first, we would have archived propagandas in which Jewish people are called “people with Judaism”, or similar.

      In , one of the newcomer advocates who seem so determined to ignore and forget those of us who came before writes in response to a comment exactly like yours. That is, the comment was condescending, mal-informed, and pushy. There is a reason why I get angry and upset enough at what I refer to as person last language (because in separating what makes me me from me, it actually puts me LAST) that my reactions are similar to opening scenes in Mad Max: Fury Road (“you let us die!”).

      As I said, the position of curebies and people wishing to enact autism genocide entirely depends on autism being thought of in the same way as my repeated skin cancers, diabetes, or tendency toward inappropriate blood clots. These three things, I would give away so much else of my self… in fact, I call it the testicles rule. I would snip mine off to be rid of those things. But the person who comes to my door saying “come with us, you have to be cured of the autismz” is going to violently lose theirs.

      There is no scenario in which you could say the things in your comment the way you say them to the face of an autistic man of my background and come away better for wear. None whatsoever. I am already going to be a more unpleasant person for the entirety of this day after reading your asinine, uninformed dribble.

  • I am an elementary teacher who came to this site exploring where I could find out more about some students I now teach. I am, frankly, taken aback by the negative labeling of people here.
    What exactly is a “curebie.?” And, I can guess at “neurotypical’s” meaning but Allistic?? I would love to hear from anyone who can shed non-hostile light on these terms. I have hated
    political correctness my whole life. I don’t have much good ju-ju for people who want to sit around and label things for the sake of bitter irony or something that tastes like that. It seems like a big energy suck. Life is too short. But education and enlightenment . . . by all means.

  • My son has autism, or he is autistic. whatever you want to say. How it is worded makes absolutely no difference. My sweet baby still is perfect, yet he lacks the skill to say the four words I long to hear, “daddy, I love you.” I personally don’t care what the symbol is that is used to raise awareness. They could use a purple horses butt. If it helps raise awareness to cut down on the stupidity of the masses, isn’t it worth it? I may be wrong and I am sure someone will point this out to me, but I just want the best for my baby boy and others like him that have difficulties. Yes, difficulties, sorry to say but he and many like him have difficulties in communication, or other functions of life.
    We see a pink ribbon and associate it breast cancer. was pink chosen for a certain reason? Who cares!! It raises awareness.
    Maybe we all should be happy that people associate any type of symbol with autism, I am, it means my wife and I are getting the help we need to best benefit our son.
    Maybe we all should stop taking offense to every little thing and just be happy that someone cares.
    In my humble opinion, I believe autism is a puzzle, just like the human brain, whether it is a “normal (I hate that word) functioning brain” or a brain that may be considered overactive, or under achieving. So the puzzle piece is a good representation of the affliction known as autism.
    Sorry if I offended anyone, certainly not my intention. I do ask that anyone reading this, please say a prayer for my family that we do our best to raise this happy little boy the best way possible and get the best advice in helping him achieve all that is possible.
    Thank you

    • It never ceases to amaze me how insulting normies can be and expect us to verbally pleasure them.

      If I did not see ghost-children with surgical marks in their shaved heads telling me that I let them die when I read or hear “…with autism”, then yes, the wording would make no difference.

      If I did not feel surges of adrenalin that cause police officers to do double-takes when observing my reaction to “…with autism”, then yes, the wording would make no difference.

      Autistic people do not want your awareness. In fact, if I may be blunt with you, and frankly I do not give a rat’s if you like it or not, autistic people like myself were better off when you had no idea that we existed at all. Your awareness has brought upon us a level of hate-propaganda and lying about us in front of our faces without us having the means to respond that people said “never again” about a mere seventy years ago.

      What you need to pound through your thick skull is that you are not one of us, ergo your opinions about matters that concern us, such as separationist language or hate-symbols, is of less than zero value. Just like my opinions concerning intellectual retardation, muscular dystrophy, or cerebral palsy, have precisely zero value because I am fortunate enough to not have to deal with any of them. You are basically the equivalent of the moron in the hospital who is trying to tell me how I am to deal with immediate-term problems with my diabetes, only a thousand times worse.

      You may think you love your son, but I assure you that when you say things like “yet he lacks the skill to say the four words I long to hear, “daddy, I love you.””, you are communicating a kind of hate of him that you are too neurobigoted to even realise you have. One of my favourite songs frequently has the vocalist repeating the words “but I am here, so you do not see me”. Every time your son has tried to communicate by some other means that he loves you, and you have not taken notice, he has taken note of that. And he will keep doing that every time you fail.

      I sincerely hope for your sake, and his, that you get your finger out and start working with instead of against him, before you end up in the same situation as my male parent. Having a son who will not talk to you at all because he learned to not love you. And for context, I was both speaking and reading at an adult level when I was the same age at which you were likely still trying to make sense of six-word sentences. That is because, not in spite of, the fact that I am autistic.

      For comprehensiveness’ sake, I urge you to go to and read as much of it as you care to. Because Emma is a good documentation of the fact that pulling your head out of your butt and listening to actual autistic people instead of curebies and “waaaaah woe is me, my child has the autismz!” parental martyrs turns into its own reward.

      Oh yeah, and if you have a problem with anything I have said, go look at yourself in a mirror and say the following: “I am looking at the reason Dean feels like he has been threatened with rape by Gregor Clegane whenever he hears ‘…with autism’. I am looking at the reason Dean wants laws forbidding non-autistic people to speak about autism, under penalty of death in extreme cases. I am looking at the reason Dean hates people like me.” You have nobody else to blame for what you hear out of people like me.

      • Whether you hate yourself, hate me, or any other person in this world. I am going to tell you that you have never seen how my baby boy and I spend our time together! We often just relax in the recliner while silently looking into each other’s eyes, it’s absolutely beautiful. You sir are to be pitied, not for any reason other than carrying hate in your heart. There is no love greater than the love for my child. He is only 2, so if it’s cold outside, I help him put his coat on, if it’s warm and we want to swim, I help him put his swimsuit on. So I am not suppose to help him with social skills and the difference between right and wrong? Apparently social skills and common sense communications is not a priority is some people’s lives. I do pity you and hope someday you will fill your heart with love so there is no room for hate. Would like to be a friend of yours, not the enemy

        • “My son has autism, or he is autistic. whatever you want to say. How it is worded makes absolutely no difference.”

          “If it helps raise awareness to cut down on the stupidity of the masses, isn’t it worth it?”

          “Maybe we all should stop taking offense to every little thing and just be happy that someone cares.”

          These are your words. You should stop and actually think about what I have said in response to them, and why. Because I am thoroughly convinced you have not done this. I am not even convinced you have read the entirety of what I have said.

          Research psychologists are also dead-convinced that Albert Einstein was autistic. His first words were spoken at the age of three, and they were a full sentence reporting hunger to his surprised parents. When he first saw his younger sister, he was heard to remark, “Yes, but where does it have its small wheels?”.

          Your child is only two years old, you say, and you are projecting so much insecurity upon him, it just reminds me of how the ability to have children should be restricted.

          To keep this short, you have come to a forum on which an autistic person has described why separationist language and puzzle pieces offend autistic people, and spewed out a lot of “who cares?” along with “my thoughts matter because I am a parent of a child with the autismz!”. Yet you seem to think I want your pity, your sympathy, or something. People like you owe me fear and awe. If it were possible to do what I wish, to force people like you to feel exactly the way you make people like me feel, you would never want to talk to another autistic adult like me again.

          • Now you and i are getting somewhere! Your last response did not appear to me to have the anger and hatred. I am here because I do not understand, plain and simple. I have heard you classify people as “normies”, I will assume you mean normal people. Is there a “normal”? I personally believe that normal should never describe any individual, we are all unique and thats what makes us human, everyone is different. And yet the same.
            I have two other sons, One is a firefighter and one is in the Army, Why do they do these dangerous jobs? When I asked them this question, they both said, because I want to do what is right and I care about people. These are ordinary young men that do “extra”ordinary jobs for the right reason.
            Dean, i am here to understand, I hope you will help me. You have extrodinary talents that far exceed mine, and in some cases, I have extrodinary talents that exceed yours, together we can help my understanding and do what is best for my baby boy. Personally, i dont get how these psychologist can help when they dont understand.
            I will not extend to you, pity, fear, or awe, I will extend my hand in friendship and request your help. Like my other two sons, I just want to do what is right, because I care.

    • You will find an adult autistic community at Neurodiverse UK on Facebook. We are based in the UK but have manu US members. We welcome autistics, parents, industry workers and educators of all levels from elementayry to PhD and have many in all those categories who participate regularly in discussions. It is not a ‘safe space’, but we admins do teach others to answer questions as we would and the vast majority will fall over backwards to educate you on our communities beleifs, values and language. Usually in a very patient way as we know not everyone gets it straight away. Autistic, remember? Come over, ask your questions with respect and you will (I hope, now I’ve said it!) receive civility in return.

  • Dear Mike Nichols,
    Do not engage with this Dean Whateverthellhisnameis. Unlike 99.9% of all the human beings who, as one part of themselves, live “the autistic life” – that is the least of the problems of Dean. Dean sucked a lemon long, long ago. He has never gotten over it. Now, he just wants you to be as pinched up as he is. He is not worth your precious time. Spend it with your son!
    That sounds like a lovely, sacred relationship. Cheers! M

    • Yeah, because people who see other children being abused and taught to think of themselves as lesser Human beings, and say “no” to that, are not worth anything, right, Mark?

      Thanks for providing yet another example why if I could snap my fingers and make every autistic individual an X-Men-style superhero, my power would be to turn emotions into a quantifiable chemical and put them into the brains of others. Being forced to live the reality I have to live when I see curebies come out with their separationist language, you would tear your own genitals off/out and stuff them into your own gob until you choked on them.

      What’s that I hear you say? You heard me right. When assholes like Mark come out saying “it does not matter what you call them” when he himself is not autistic, and then keeps using “…with autism”, the effect is exactly the same as if you come into my home, put a gun to my head, and tell me I am going to let you fukk me or you will kill me. How does that grab you and your whiny normie superiority complex, Mark? Did you think I did not mean it when I said earlier that under my vision of an Autism Civil Rights Act, people who say “…with autism” would have to pay the people they have hurt by it, go to prison, or both?

      • You know, all I want is to understand and be the best father I can be, maybe I am in the wrong area for this. I will now delete this from my e-mail and not bother anyone anymore. Best of luck to any and all.

        • I will incorporate some of what came to mind with your other reply here. It will make more sense this way.

          The reality that nobody is willing to confront is that autistic people have a lot that they want to tell the world, but the people most powerful in said world do not want to hear it. They want to hear things that make them feel good about themselves. They want to hear things that make them believe that they are doing the right thing, irregardless of what that thing might be accomplishing.

          I used to be the same way. I think the day I could actually look myself in the face and call myself a grown-up was when I could finally hear things that did not make me feel good inside or did not comfort me. It is a hard, painful thing to learn, but it is a very important one, and one that a lot of people unfortunately do not learn.

          My male parental unit, for example, likes to think that everybody in the world loves him and that he is a stand-up guy. The fact that I, the one person whom traditional media says should regard him with awe, never speak(s) to him anymore, should tell you how honest he is being.

          The gravatar that I have was intended to be symbolic. It is meant to represent the way I feel about the way I have been treated since what I call diagnosis day. When the diagnostician told me the news, she told me that my life would get better as a result of this. I want to punch her in the face for that. The mere memory of her words is like shit being pushed into my ears compared to what I have lived. And if you are keeping track, much of that is because of the manner in which my male parental unit behaved.

          I live in country where I am expected to be content with a shard, incomplete chunk of life. These peoples’ promises are all lies, and their love is hate.

          If I could tell you one thing that might help you at all, it is this. Stop reading what people who are not autistic have to say about autism. Do not listen to it, do not give it the weight of a pebble. Treat it as you would the static on an improperly tuned radio. The only reason I take time to respond to it myself is because I want to make other people, especially other autistic people, aware of why I so badly see the need for an Autism Civil Rights Act.

          Your son is still very young. You should try to remember that and what it means. There are places online such as the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network or the Thinking Person’s Guide To Autism that can more specifically answer any queries you might have, but that your child is not speaking to you in phrases yet is not truly a cause for alarm. In three years’ time it may be, but that is a bridge you can cross if you get to it. ASAN can probably offer advice about such a situation.

          I would probably have been washed out of the army even if I did not have diabetes. I have been experiencing symptoms that are associated with PTSD since I was about six years old. But that, and my desire to form armies of autistic people in a similar mode to the Black Panthers movement, should prove instructive concerning my motivations. Sometimes, people say things that they think are perfectly all fine and dandy, but a good hard think about can reveal how awful they are.

          • Thank you for giving me the website to ASAN, being new to this, I never realized how people are naive to think someone with autism is less of a person. I truly have never thought this myself. It is a shame that people think this way. I have a much better understanding of your anger now and appreciation of what you have gone through. I personally am not one of those people. Keep fighting for what is right and know that I am on your side.
            Thank you again Dean
            I will continue to try and be the best father I can by paying attention to my little guy and not so much the “educated”.
            He is a godsend to my wife and I and we have always and will always believe this.

    • I like to believe that everyone deserves to be loved, and respected. This was instilled into me by my Dad years ago. I am not in Deans shoes so I dont know the circumstances he has been through other than what he has told me. I appreciate His opinion, as I do yours, thank you for seeing through my words and noticing the love I have for all three of my sons. I will find out how good of a job I did raising them when I see how my future grandkids turn out.
      Many thanks to all!!

  • without the puzzle logo i would off never found my self its draw to one with austim so much more so it has to catch our eye in sucess

  • I am an epileptic so I know what some of the world of autism is like. Next I have raised 2 kids that are autistic. I raised them the closest I could to how I was raised- you may be differant in other peoples eyes but to us your just like all the other kids and are expected to act so. In other words my kids were- are special people. I would explain to them and to thier classmates- other autistic kids about the puzzle piece is if you look at it you will see a person. That little guy is blue, sometimes rainbow but he is one person and like in a puzzle you hold each others hands, give each other a hug. You stand tall, be proud of who you are- yes you will make lots of mistakes-but we all do, ,, you just make a few more.
    The idea that you call it a swazstica are a bunch of junk and have no thoughts of what I have been told it stood for. It stands for I am a person, I fit in with the world and sometimes maybe I do need my hand held. You guys who not see that ideal in it wether you are autistic or norm, must have blind eyes. Some of you talk horribly think how did you want to be treated. I am also proud to point out to people what that crazy puzzle peice means umunst all those color ribbons.

    • 1) “I am an epileptic so I know what some of the world of autism is like. Next I have raised 2 kids that are autistic.”

      In these two sentences, you tell us exactly how much value we, actual autistic people, should place in your opinion. None.

      2) “The idea that you call it a swazstica are a bunch of junk and have no thoughts of what I have been told it stood for.”

      Bro? Do you even English? Now, that you basically call our views a “bunch of junk” pretty much says it all about how much value we should place in your view. None.

      The puzzle piece is largely associated with ads that expect ignorant normies to believe that autism is worse than diabetes and cancer put together. I am autistic, I have had diabetes for twenty-eight years, and I have had two basal cell carcinomas cut out of my skin. Basal cell carcinomas are called “benign” and “very curable” by cancer specialists. The first one I had taken out was from my face, and it took a square inch of cheek with it. I still have nightmares about it coming back.

      Curebies who wave the puzzle piece in our face expect us to believe that what makes me different to the people who abused me constantly throughout my childhood and early adulthood is *worse than* a cancer that took a huge chunk of my face or the diabetes that is threatening to make me impotent and in need of nappies. At the grand old age of 38.

      So if you will pardon me for a second, if you think I should treat the symbol of the curebies as “it stands for I am a person” or as something positive, fukk you. You do not get to tell me what symbols my oppressors have used to dehumanise me mean. Either learn about what millions of autistic people feel about your symbol, or ship out.

      Go back to Autism Speaks For Normie Assholes’ boards and tell them your little warm and fuzzy stories about what you think the puzzle piece means. They will love you there.

  • Keep the puzzle piece! Because like a puzzle piece their all unique in their on way but come together for a bigger picture that everyone can plainly see!

  • Personally I love the puzzle piece. It’s not for everyone and thats fine, but people should not tell others that what it should mean to them. I hate it when people tell me that it can not represent MY autism.

    • You do understand that there are people out there who have PTSD symptoms when someone flashes them with a puzzle piece and says “this is autism”, yes?

      • It is not autism- it represents autism, besides you going to flash a ribbon at that same person to see what they say? I have 2 autistic kids and 1 with adhd – what is the idea of changing from the puzzle I and they like to a ribbon that people can’t even keep track of thier meaning. In fact some of those colored ribbons stand for several differant things.

        • I think you should reread my earlier comment and take a very hard look at yourself. Autistic people are not just badly represented in the world political and media stages. They have had their own image taken away from them and distorted into shapes specifically designed to demean them. Which is what the puzzle piece basically is. It is a demeaning of autistic people like me, and its use in the past has caused it to strike legitimate fear into the hearts of autistic people like me.

          I am also very fascinated by these people who always feel the need to say “I have autistic children” or the like. So what? The people who would like the puzzle piece gone are autistic themselves. If someone demonstrated to me in person that they care more about what my mother or male parental unit think than they care what *I*, the actual autistic person, thinks, it would not end well for that person.

          “I am the mommy of a child with the autismz!” is, in fact, much like the puzzle piece itself. Like burning a cross in my yard.

  • Dean your are way to violent for my taste and you are in no way representative of the autistic community. You give no assistance to people looking for help with understanding autism and frankly all the violent ways you describe how you would “deal” with people is appalling. I have autistic friends and raise a child on the spectrum both find comfort in the word. Your argument has no merit. I have a friend who loves to say sorry guys im autistic let me catch up a second when were in big groups and no on bats an eye no one criticizes. He says it helps him get people to understand which is what the puzzle piece is about. Maby take a look at how you are acting before arguing with the world. No one takes your opinion seriously when your talking about cutting off testicles and how it wont end well for people. As the saying goes you attract more with honey then shit.

    • Ray, you are an exact example of why I want there to be laws so that you will face prison time and civil liability for your comment.

      You are not autistic, ergo your beliefs, prejudices, and lies concerning autism are utterly irrelevant. I am the autistic one in this conversation, and that makes my opinion concerning autism automatically paramount in comparison to yours. Every day, I get to see people like you saying “I am a parent of a baby with the autismz! I am a god! Everybody must follow my way no matter how much harm and pain it brings them!”, and if you felt what I felt, saw yourself the way I see you, when you doodle your nonsense about how bad and wrong and “to be ignored” I am, you would save me the trouble and kill yourself. There is not a word in any language of the Human species, not even Spanish or Italian, for how disgusting, offensive, and diseased you look in my eyes. There is no amount of pain or suffering that you can suffer that I will not believe you deserving of.

      And you have brought that on entirely yourself.

      If anything, the fact that I test positive under screening quizzes for PTSD and have had multiple PhD. holders tell me to my face that I meet the PTSD diagnostic criteria makes my opinion concerning offensive, dehumanising symbols like the puzzle piece more valuable. Whilst the people of the world agree that being unable to watch rotating ceiling fans without having PTSD flashbacks, they also agree that feeling violently angry, upset, and afraid when Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazi paraphernalia is out of the woodwork is not merely normal, but perfectly natural.

      People like you are the reason I have been jumping up and down and screaming for a proper PTSD assessment for more than a year now. People like you are the reason I know, not think, know, that taking guns off everyone in the world except the autistic will make a better world. I am autistic, and the feeling that people like you, scum, are held to represent me in the eyes of normies is offensive. You disgust me so deeply that I will be talking to people about it and reminding them of my desire to be assessed for PTSD for months, maybe years, to come. Be proud of yourself, because just as the saying that it is better to regret something you have done than something you have not done is true, it is people like you who raise adults that wish they could go back in time and kill one or more of their parental units. I will contact you and ask for your address so I can send my male parental unit’s head in the post one day.

      • “Whilst the people of the world agree that being unable to watch rotating ceiling fans without having PTSD flashbacks” *is highly problematic and needing treatment*

  • I’m a young adult on the autism spectrum. Personally, I like the puzzle piece because it represents uniqueness and how autism is just one piece of our personhood. I don’t understand maths very well, so the “infinity” symbol makes no sense to me. But that is just me.

  • A friend of mine is a wheelchair user. He has always said that he hates the term “person with a disability” and vastly prefers “disabled person” (which is the opposite of what I think I would prefer). I never pressed him on it, and dutifully changed my language. Secretly, though, I never really understood why…until reading the vitriol being spewed here. But I think I do, now. So, lesson gratefully learned. Perhaps it couldn’t be taught in terms less disgusting.

    • Lisa Egan wrote a great piece about the difference between “with a disability” and “disabled” at … I strongly advise you to read it and have a long, hard think about what Lisa is saying in this document.

      What a lot of the people who think themselves qualified to talk about autism when they are not autistic fail to understand is that autism is the perfect, and as far as I know only, example of what I refer to as a “reversion disability”. In other words, if you reversed the ratio of normies to autistic people, that is, you had one normie for every 150 autistic people in the world, the normies would be considered disabled. When you stop and consider how important normies think the ooga-booga dance they do whilst saying what is often a whole lot of nothing is, it is not difficult to see why. Imagine a world where all but .75% of the population know, not think, know, that the substance of what a person is saying is more important than wink-blink-blink-blink ooga-booga dances. Imagine how much more would get done.

      Which is why anyone who claims to be autistic and says they like the puzzle piece is either lying or very, very confused. The puzzle piece was not chosen by autistic people, but rather thrust upon them, and what it represents to people doing the thrusting is so offensive, so out of line with the facts, that it is not out of line to equate the puzzle piece to the burning cross or the swastika.

      The same can be said of people claiming that they are autistic and prefer to be called “person with…”. If the law woke up and made it illegal under penalty of prison time to call me a “person with autism”, within a generation or two groups like Autism Speaks For Normie A______ would cease to exist. They would be without a leg to stand on. Because they depend, utterly depend, on people like you or my idiot family unit thinking of autism the same way I think of the diabetes that is ravaging my body or the skin cancers that seem to pop up to greet me every time I close my eyes. As something separate to the individual, that is not desired.

      That is, they want you to think of my brain, and the way it has evolved to make the substance of what people say more important to me than how “coooooooool” they think they are when they say it, as a separate thing to me. As something that I would be happy to have removed from me. I defy you to think of something more offensive and absurd.

      • Why do you say that I am lying or confused. The n-word was not chosen by people of color and was used offensively, but many have reclaimed it because they feel that it describes them. The word “queer” was not chosen by people of gender and sexual minorities (of which I am one in addition to having autism) and was used offensively, but many have reclaimed it because they feel that it describes them. If someone offers a better alternative than the stupid infinity symbol (What the hell is infinity anyway?) or a rainbow (I find that to be appropriating LGBT symbols), then I would be happy to use it. I feel very upset that you say that I am lying. Why do you think that only your autistic experience is valid? It is called a spectrum for a reason, and people can have different opinions from you.

        • Let me just stop you right there. The puzzle piece was not chosen by autistic people. It was thrust upon us by a bunch of ignorant normie assholes who at first even had the courtesy to adorn it with a little image of a crying child. As if to tell us that what makes us different from them is soooooo bad that children would do anything to not “have it”. Given that I was diagnosed with diabetes as a child and would gladly give up the bits that make me a man to not have diabetes, I strongly resent the idea of my neurology being seen or spoken about in the same manner.

          That is the history of the puzzle piece.

          I like to refer people to because in it, they quote a university professor as saying that no, nobody is entitled to their opinion. You are hiding behind “people can have different opinions” to head off an argument. I would argue, and evidence is on my side with this one, that you are doing so because you cannot come up with a substantive argument that overrides the fact that autistic people who feel genuine, substantial fear of being kidnapped and “cured”, see the puzzle piece the way black people see burning crosses or Jews see swastikas.

          I would feel pretty insulted if people saw me as a “puzzle” to be “solved”. The mental health helper agency that I jump up and down at constantly for formal PTSD assessments see me as being pretty bloody simple and easy to understand once the preliminaries are over. Ditto me. As Christian Bale said so well in The Dark Knight, you only need to figure out what I want and why. How that can be represented in a puzzle piece as opposed to, say, a crooked-limbed seven-point star with runes at each point to signify the things that are important to Magi (an idea I am still trying to make an illustration of), is a question for the ages.

          What does a puzzle piece say? As opposed to a fist raised in anger, a series of links looped together in unity, or a black flag? Because when you stop droning on with “I like the puzzle piece” and think about what it says to ignoramuses, curebies, and fence-sitters as opposed to what you would want to say to them, you can easily see why the puzzle piece is hated by autistic people everywhere. A black flag, for example, is a riff on the idea of nations inverting their national flag to indicate the nation is in distress. As long as curebies and puzzle pieces are allowed to spew their hate unchallenged, autistic people as a collective will always be in distress. Hence, the flag you cannot invert or put right-way-up.

          See how much more thought I put into symbols as opposed to you into yours?

          That is why I really wish so-called autistic people who claim the puzzle piece is okay could just be expunged from the community. You care nothing for the consequences to autistic people regarding your preferences, and do not even think about what you are doing or how what you are doing might affect others. You are behaving like a normie, to put it very bluntly.

          • If I’m not entitled to an opinion, than neither are you. You claim to speak for all autistic people, but you are one person. Yes, I am only one person too. But I am one person who _is_ indeed on the spectrum for whom you do not speak. You also fail to address my arguments of people of color and LGBT people. You seem to think that only autistic people can experience discrimination and trauma. That is not true. If you are entitled to your freedom of speech, then I am entitled to mine. You can’t have it both ways. I already explained what I see the puzzle piece to mean to me: autism is one piece of my personhood, which comes together with all of the other pieces to form a whole identity. Also, autism is unique to every individual, as are all puzzle pieces; no one is the same. I have put a lot of thought into that. I studied graphic design in school and studied logo development and understand symbology. I have no idea what you are talking about about some star (why 7 points?) with runes (what are those?). Or chain link? All I can see is prison and slavery chains. Or the black flag. The very fact that you have to explain it so much probably means that it is not a very good symbol, since no one but you is going to understand it at a glance. A rectangle is also not very uniquely identifiable (i.e. when someone who knows nothing about autism sees your proposed flag, what are they going to learn from the symbol? How is it going to form a connection in their mind once they learn what autism is?

            You also mention a fist raised in anger. You seem to be very angry and lash out at everyone around you. If you continue to lash out at your community (fellow autistics), you will have no one left to support you, since you obviously don’t give a fig for anyone who isn’t autistic. Your use of derogatory nicknames is unkind and will not win you any favors in convincing anyone of your _opinion_. Yes, it is an opinion, just like mine is. In the end, that’s all that there is. Truth is relative to our experiences, and obviously we’ve experienced life differently. I am sorry that your life has been so hard, as I do not have the same physical disorders and I greatly respect the efforts my parents made for me. However, excluding your peers based on _your_ perceptions of _your_ autism is incredibly exclusionary and rude.

          • You know, in the past I might I have excused people when in face-to-face conversations, they tell me I said something that is completely different to what I really said. On an Internet forum where people can roll right up and look at what I really did say, there is no excuse. You present the best argument for me to disbelieve that you are autistic, and believe that you are instead one of the shills that Autism Speaks For Normie ___holes likes to send to Internet forums to say “I am autistic and I support everything autistic people are fighting against”. Such is the behaviour of ASFNA, both past and present, that if I discovered a documented payroll for such people, it would not even surprise me.

            The words I said, exactly, are that you are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to what you can argue for. And you argue so very, very poorly. So you like the puzzle piece symbol because you think it represents how autism is just a small part of you? Well, the asshats who try to tell us to say “person with” have been slapped with the perfect response to this. The puzzle piece makes out autism to be a small, unimportant piece of autistic people. I do not regard what makes me different from my abusers, I do not regard what prompted my abusers to abuse me, as a small thing. I consider it something with killing in self-defense for.

            In the late 1990s, a film starring James Marsden and Katie Holmes called Disturbing Behaviour was released. In it, Marsden’s character moves with his family to a small town where a self-professed doctor likes to kidnap teenagers who do not fit the Ivy League mould and mutilate their brains until they turn into Ivy League jocks. It is a brilliant metaphor for the struggle for autism civil rights, and it is not very difficult to imagine that the people who invented the puzzle piece symbol see me the same way that the gaslighting, infantalising “doctor” saw the people he butchered into obedience. The puzzle piece will never be a symbol of the autism rights cause because the people who forced it upon us care nothing for us or the people they hurt.

            But you just keep straw-manning and digging yourself a bigger hole, telling me how I cannot take offense at the puzzle piece because it looks so very pretty to you. Nobody who is actually autistic sees being autistic as a little bitty part of them. The amount of abuse that autistic people of my generation have endured means that it is a very big deal.

            Asking autistic people to proudly wave around a symbol that is used by the organisation we wish we could openly kill members of as one does in the kind of war they have declared upon us is offensive. Trying to pretend to someone who has PTSD freakouts at retailers who ignorantly display it and expect to be viewed as Good People for it that the puzzle piece is good is like telling survivors of the Pol Pot regime that anti-intellectualism is a good thing.

            You have already arrived at a point where someone you are trying so very hard to convince will not even give your arguments the time of day. Quit while you are behind. The puzzle piece was forced on the autistic with a hateful intent. Autism Speaks For Normie !@$*&(^# like to play historical revisionist, too.

        • Honestly the fact that you typed n-word instead of saying it is indicative of the fact that it’s inappropriate for non black people to say it. It pisses me off to no end when it’s used by non blacks. Has it been reclaimed? Yes. But the goal of reclaiming a word or term is often used to take power away from the oppressor. The term “queer works for the LGBT community because it’s a way to reject labels and classification but still have a unifying greater community. Aside from that the word itself just means different. It started off as an insult but the history of the word doesn’t span long enough for it to have gained the amount of power and visceral reactions. Accepting the puzzle piece does nothing for autistic people, and lends weight and credibility to our oppressors (especially autism speaks) as opposed to taking power from them. It’s a symbol of trying to cure what makes us who and what we are. If the rainbow was originally a symbol for conversion camps and electric shocks therapy for “curing” homosexuality I can assure you that it would not be the symbol that the queer community rallied behind. It’s an outdated symbol drenched in hatred and it needs to be burned.

  • I’m Métis and agree with the person who doesn’t like the affinity symbol used for autism.

    It’s widely used by many people on the spectrum now, and it just makes me sad because that’s my peoples flag and we are a small people and not many hear our words or know we excist. It already means something to the Métis.

    And not all autistics are good at math. I suck at math for example.

    I actually like puzzle pieces. I think they’re cute, and they remind me of, well, puzzles! And problem solving. Which I enjoy doing. I wish we could reclaim the puzzle peice, but it seems the majority of my fellow autistic adults do not wish this.

    So it has to be something else.

    I just hope it’s my the infinity symbol. 🙁

    That’s my cultures flag…

  • I’m Métis and agree with the person who stated they don’t like the affinity symbol used for autism.

    It’s widely used by many people on the spectrum now, and I’ll be honest it annoys me because it already has a meaning to us as our flag; a symbol of unity and a never ending culture. We are a small people and not many hear our words or know we excist. It already means something to the Métis.

    And not all autistics are good at math. I suck at math for example.

    And I actually like puzzle pieces. I love the rainbow multiple puzzle pieces. I think they’re cute, and they remind me of, well, puzzles! And problem solving. Which I enjoy doing.

    I wish we could reclaim the puzzle piece, but the majority of my fellow autistic adults do not wish this.

    So it has to be something else.

    I just hope the next autism symbol isn’t the infinity symbol.

    Because if it becomes popular enough and people see me wearing a Métis pin, they’ll be like “oh autism!” And I’m autistic too, but I don’t want my Métis identity and my autism identity to clash. Ones cultural and the other is neurological.

    • Teighglor, I have stated in the past here that I am very much not a fan of rainbows or infinity (the actual “scientific” symbol for infinity) being used as a representation of autism. And you touch upon the very reason why.

      I have spoken of the symbol I intend to design to use for the Magi in my novels in other responses to this post. A seven-point star with limbs bent in certain angles, with symbols around it representing certain qualities Magi aspire to. That is a far better symbol to represent autistic people. Given how complex the design is, and how it draws the viewer in and makes them ask “what is that? why does it have this, this, and this?”, it also represents autism well. Because autism is a complex thing, deserves a complex response, and if certain people who have posted here would have thought to ask questions instead of assuming the answers they dreamed up were automatically correct, I would not regard them the same way as I regard the mould growing in my toilet bowl.

      In all ways, as a representation of autistic people, my Mage-symbol is far superior to the rainbow infinity. And especially that disgusting puzzle piece.

      So with that in mind, because I have never read the word Métis before, some questions come to mind. I looked up the word on Bing and learned about it being a racial or ancestral group in Canada, but the questions that come to mind are… Why do Métis people use the infinity loop to represent themselves? And what does it mean to them? (Just like my proposed Mage symbol above, I had to think long and hard about that one.) Is being Métis inherited on the basis of your parents being Métis and so on? (If that is the case, then being Métis does have one thing in common with being autistic – it is an involuntary grouping.) And would Métis people benefit from there being educational campaigns to say “Métis have used this symbol since forever, please choose something else, autistic people” or similar?

      If I have said anything that is wrong or insensitive to Métis culture or cultural considerations, I apologise in advance, but what you have written here quite fascinates me and has alerted me to the existence of a group I had no prior knowledge of. So thank you for that.

      • Dean,
        Thank you so much for everything you have posted on this article. I have a 4 year old autistic son. I was looking for ideas to get a tattoo representing my love for him. I wanted to get some variation with the puzzle. I am so glad I found this article and have had a chance to read your input.

      • Talking about Autism Spectrum Disorder
        There are lots of different ways to talk about Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). We can talk about ASD medically, we can describe it through behaviour, we can talk about prevalence rates, we can talk about early detection and the importance of early evidence-based intervention, we can talk about the need for support for people with ASD across a lifespan, or we can talk about why advocacy is vital for building communities equipped to meet and support the changing needs of people on the spectrum.

        It’s easy to think about ASD as a diagnosis, however, we are not talking about a diagnosis. We are talking about a person with ASD. We are talking about a person with individual needs. We are talking about a person with loving family members. We are talking about a person who needs to be accepted and included in her or his community, we are talking about a person who is granted equal opportunity preparing for and succeeding in adulthood.

        • From “I am autism ad transcript”:

          “You think that because my child lives behind a wall, I am afraid to knock it down with my bare hands?”

          “You have not properly been introduced to this community of parents and grandparents, of siblings and friends and schoolteachers and therapists and pediatricians and scientists.”

          “Autism, if you are not scared, you should be.”

          “When you came for my child, you forgot: you came for me.
          Autism, are you listening?”

          What you have gotten tattooed on your body is a symbol of people who hate you, do not fear you, in fact, treat you with contempt, ridicule you, lie about you in front of your face, and think the world would be made better if you and everyone like you were removed from it.

          That is what the puzzle piece actually symbolises.

          There are people like me who have tremors in their bodies and have flashbacks, or what I call “flash-forwards”, of bad confrontations with people who believe in the principles that the puzzle piece truly symbolises. That being autistic is somehow painful and that we are all locked away in a glass cage that is somehow created by autism, as opposed to their rampant discrimination against us.

          “Also if the puzzle piece changes while I have a puzzle tattoo…well that’s like getting LGBT tattooed in a place where you can’t keep adding letters. People will just think you’re politically incorrect and uneducated. I refuse to be labeled dumb.”

          So let me get this straight. You want a symbol that started its miserable, hateful existence as a symbol like , an image of a child crying “waaaaah being autistic is so bad, make me not autistic so my parents will stop abusing me, pleeeez” to not be changed, FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE?

          And here was I led to believe that autistic people are, as a rule, smarter than the average bear, or more inclined to do their homework in a subject that is germane to them.

          Do you see where I am coming from when I say that if I stormed Autism Speaks For Normie #$!@holes’ vaults and uncovered a hard drive with a list full of people they pay to pose as autistic and say that they like the puzzle piece, they want a cure, and that we should all call ourselves “…with autism”, that would not even mildly surprise me?

          Because when I see puzzle piece symbols and hear the bullshit coming out of the mouths of the people waving it around, well, it is as I have told multiple psychologists and psychiatrists. I will first tell the authorities who control the space they are in that they can remove these creeps, or I will do it for them, and I shall be much less nice about it. Because even the thought of them being allowed to do so is making me shake and my brain tick over in a way that I desperately wish I had the superpower to make others experience.

          Finally, claims that autistic people recognise one another through the puzzle piece are so gobsmacking and insensitive to the fact that I and doubtless many like me experience physical pain at the sight of puzzle pieces that it makes me think of this. Autistic people identifying themselves and each other with a symbol flashed everywhere by an enemy that wants them herded away and disappeared is like Jews identifying each other with swastikas.

          And if you are going to say “this is different”, you are not a part of the problem, as well as my satellite to that problem. You are the problem, and my problem.

  • As the world’s best selling jigsaw puzzle artist, I LOVE the puzzle piece symbol.
    WHY? Because I am also an Aspie. I have Aspergers. I do not suffer from ASD because Aspergers in NOT a disorder. It is simply a different way of seeing things.

  • I like the puzzle piece. I was recently diagnosed with autism and I’m 22 years old. Talk about a late diagnosis. I grew up thinking I only had ADD but it turns out I only had part of the puzzle. I was missing a piece of who I really am. I was ignoring the rest of me. And now I’m learning that sometimes puzzles are hard to understand and you can’t finish the picture when you have one piece missing.

    It may sound ridiculous to others but to me it makes sense. To people like me it makes sense. Thankfully there seems to be a lot of people like me and we recognize each other through the puzzle piece symbol. I’m planning on making it my first tattoo. Im not ashamed of my brain for being different, I’m happy now because I understand myself better.

    Also if the puzzle piece changes while I have a puzzle tattoo…well that’s like getting LGBT tattooed in a place where you can’t keep adding letters. People will just think you’re politically incorrect and uneducated. I refuse to be labeled dumb.

  • Hi foks,

    Speaking as an autistic advocate, I would like to introduce those of you who are still getting notifications and those of you who are (re)visiting to the Going Gold campaign. Found here at

    I may seem to be blowing my own trumpet a bit here, but I thought this would be relevant to the conversation. This came about from over a year ghosting around and dropping surveys and talking with advocates worldwide, so please give it the consideration it deserves.

    All those consulted on this were autistic and over 7000 responses were considered from surveys. If I get permission from the others in this who are somewhat shyer,including those who are non-verbal; I will put the story and methodology and results into some form of readable format. Until then, we stuck with a simple explanation and an appeal. Thank you for reading.

  • I doubt anyone will even see this little comment or read it. But as an adult woman diagnosed very late as HFASD, I like the idea of a prism casting a rainbow made of puzzle pieces because we all fall on the spectrum and we are all put together together differently on it. Just my humble 2 cents worth as a HFASD single mom of a HFASD little boy.

    • This is another example of why we need autism education services run by autistic people.

      Tricia, at the risk of being condescending, did you actually read this whole article? Or anyone else’s comments? Because if there is one thing that politically conscious autistic people report in common, other than a hatred of Autism Speaks For Normie ****holes, it is an aversion to the puzzle piece. I cannot even look at it without having what I call “flash-forwards”.

  • I’m a 73 yo Aspie. I have no issue with the image of a jigsaw puzzle because it reminds me that, even if all the pieces are present, the PICTURE that reveals what it should look like IS missing. And it’s a slightly different picture for all of us.

    The cover image on my Facebook Group sums it up pretty well for me.

    And Dean, if it triggers you in any way, just avoid it, okay? If you view it, it’s a choice, especially now that I’ve told you. People who think that there should be laws limiting freedom of expression like you mention above need to get a grip and understand that ‘being offended’ is a CHOICE.

    • It does not “trigger” me. It symbolises the hate, ignorance, and irrational prejudice that curebies direct at me. Big difference. The puzzle piece is like an announcement. “We believe that you are an accident of vaccines and that we must remove everything that makes you different from us” is one of the things that can simply be communicated… with a puzzle piece.

      Such is the reputation, John, of curebies, that if I were to raid your house and discover incontrovertible evidence that Autism Speaks FNA is paying you to come to places like these and make bully arguments like “being offended is a CHOICE! DUH!” (seriously, do you realise how *retarded* that makes you sound?), it would not even mildly surprise me.

      Think about it. Curebies have done so bad that the discovery of evidence to the effect that they Scientology-style beat real autistic people into parroting them and pay people like you to pose as real autistic people would not shock us. That is the kind of enemy we have to deal with every day.

      “Trigger” is a piss-word for curebie posing scum like you to parrot. And there will be blood if one of your kind comes into the places I conduct my life around, waving puzzle pieces about. This is a fact.

  • By the way, do you mean to tell me that the ideal solution for the Klan burning crosses in the yards of black people whom they deemed too “uppity” was for the black people to “not look at it”? Is that what you are telling me?

    Because “don’t look at it” if my local five-story shopping mall suddenly has puzzle pieces in every store window is exactly the same as that.

    The puzzle piece effectively communicates “we are going to change the law so it is legal for us to kidnap you, strap you to a table, pour bleach into your anus/cut chunks out of your brain/non-indicated chelate you until you act the way we think you should”. And you think autistic people should “just ignore it”.

    At the risk of getting censored, you are not just a normie posing as autistic in my eyes anymore. You are a confirmed cunt.

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